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Friday, December 9, 2011

Anders Breivik: Paleoconservative Feminist Drivel Activism; or Beta Equality of Rape Symbolism Orgy?

Anders Breivik: Paleoconservative Feminist Drivel Activism; or Beta Equality of Rape Symbolism Orgy?

08 December 2011 | Andrea Muhrrteyn | Norway v. Breivik

Eivind Berge is a very interesting, outspoken blogger with controversial ideas (for the politically correct). I don't agree with many of his views, and with others I entirely agree. What I do appreciate about him is his brutal honesty, his total disregard for pretence and fakeness. This takes courage, and there are very few people who are willing to be as blunt and honest as he is.

I personally can't stand two faced hypocrits -- spent a year in a prison cell, because I couldn't stand two faced corrupt prosecutore and magistrate and told them that to their face in court proceedings -- so I highly appreciate brutally honest people; cause I know how difficult it is, in this politically correct society, where everone says what they think is appropriate, or nice, or ettiquette, instead of what they honestly think, to the face of the other person.

Secondly, in my personal opinion, much of the problems our society and culture's therein face -- or those which people call 'problems' (considering that so few are sincere and serious about their language, its difficult to know if they call a 'problem' a problem, out of political correctness, or because in their gut, they believe it is a problem -- is a problem of vague, abstract PR bullshit each other language. We cannot get to the source of our problems, cause the majority of us are too gutless to say what we really think and to enter into a conversation with others who have the courage to say what they think.

So a salute to Mr. Berge for his courage!

Mr. Berge describes himself as: “Also known by the pen name Arpagus, I am a libertarian and an antifeminist (not to be confused with misogynist). I am a graduate student in Latin and I wish I were a pickup artist. Unlike many bloggers I proudly assert my earnest opinion under my real identity even though it may get me excluded from polite society.”

He also has some fascinating ideas about Breivik and Breivik's actions, and I think an honest open blog to blog conversation with him, may prove to be illuminating and educational, for me, and I hope for him and readers.

So I sent him an invitation to discussion; as a comment to his Breivik article: Anders Breivik: Paleoconservative Activism Or Beta Rampage?; and unlike much of the rest of the possible 'uncommitted right wing types' who dilute the Personal Responsibility movement; and delete all my comments, petrified it may taint their precious blogs with some brutal 'committed personal responsibility movement' wing honesty; Mr. Berge does not suffer from that paranoia! ;-)

I hope he shall accept.


Hi Mr. Berge,

I am a feminist; however there are many differences I have with other women who consider themselves feminists, and like there are differences between liberals, or conservaitves, there are among feminists.

Unlike other feminists, I am entirely open to an honest conversation with any critic, so as to hear their honest and honourable feedback (if they are capable of such), and if enough evidence is provided, to amend my relevant feminist perspective; or even to discard feminism altogether.

I have not yet met such an anti-feminist; so I wonder whether many of these anti-feminists, only call themselves such, to get themselves a little following of men who simply hate women, and rather than focussing on healing the divisions, instead wish to make women the source of their pity party. They - like blacks, and all other minorities (including some feminists (not all)) - wish to jump on the 'poor us victims' bandwagon.

So, before I go any further, I'd like to find out: Would you be interested in an honest honourable conversation on these issues; as time permits? Not to prove either one right or wrong, but to attempt an honest dialogue, instead of a mud 'we hate you' slinging match?

I shall post a copy of my comment invitation, including your post above, to: Norway v. Breivik :: Uncensored; and hope you will consider a discussion of these matters.

Anders Breivik: Paleoconservative Activism Or Beta Rampage?

27 July 2011 | Eivind Berge

Anti-Immigrant Feelings Sweep Across Europe ()
At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway's first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as "Emma." It turns out her real name is Nataliya and she is now my girlfriend. No actual violence was necessary, and it looked like Norway would be a peaceful place for now. I knew things are seriously amiss around here and that neither feminism nor multiculturalism is sustainable in the long run, but I had no idea a formidable activist named Anders Behring Breivik was already years into meticulously planning an attack that would show the entire world what Vikings are made of.

On July 22, 2011 the social democratic regime in Oslo was struck by violence so spectacular it took us all by surprise. The ruling class of a country has never, as far as I know, been so systematically and viciously assaulted by a single individual. The bombing of government offices was impressive enough, but the shooting spree which followed was mind-bogglingly effective, literally decimating the crème de la crème of aspiring young politicians for the ruling Labor Party. The ethics of shooting defenseless teenagers at summer camp can be questioned, to say the least, but it sure was a brilliant way to strike at the core of the Norwegian political elite. These are the next generation of political leaders, and what better way to terrorize the parents – the current top holders of political office – than going after their kids? As Glenn Beck has observed, the AUF youth at Utøya are reminiscent of Hitler-Jugend. Utøya is where leftist kids come to be indoctrinated every summer, steeping themselves in liberal propaganda and listening to inspirational speeches by current and former social democratic leaders such as Gro Harlem Brundtland. In retrospect, it was extremely thoughtless by the ruling class not to post a single armed guard at this event. Politics is serious business after all, and such a hotbed of recruitment concentrated on an island with no easy escape is an obvious target for political enemies, if you think about it. I guess they were still under the illusion that Norway is an idyllic place which somehow does not foster violent malcontents no matter how downtrodden we get.

Indeed, the perpetrators of the evils against men I've chronicled on my blog are the direct maleficiaries of Breivik's aggression. While I am as prone to feeling sympathy for innocent-looking kids as the next guy, and I too feel this atrocity was a bit excessive, then the ugly face of the scumbag Knut Storberget keeps appearing in the news to remind me that this was not an attack against the innocent. Storberget is the main poster boy for feminist corruption of justice, and there is no fucking way his presence can evoke anything but hatred. The corrupt nature of the Norwegian justice system hits home also when, as Breivik appeared at the hearing Monday, the court closed its doors and conducted its business in complete secrecy, admitting neither the public nor the press. They shamelessly did this by request of the cops in order to prevent Breivik from addressing the public. And Storberget is already starting to exploit the situation by agitating for a stronger police state.

Fortunately, Breivik was able to release a manifesto which is now so widely disseminated that they have no hope of censoring it. It could be better, marred by plagiarism as well as lack of proofreading (for obvious reasons, this could not be outsourced), but overall, 2083 – A European Declaration of Independence is fairly decent and contains much truth. While I cannot get behind Breivik’s entire program (for one thing, as a libertarian, I strongly support freedom of religion, though I acknowledge the problems associated with Islam gaining influence in Europe), he does, at least, understand sexual politics:
Females have a significantly higher proportion of erotic capital than males due to biological differences (men have significantly more prevalent sexual urges than females and are thus easily manipulated). The female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of men in Europe. This highly underestimated factor has contributed to the creation and rise of the matriarchal systems which are now dominating Western European countries. European women, in light of the feminist revolution, are now considerably more influential than men due to the sum of all forms of capital. (p. 1180)

From this follows also the fact that rape is equality, as I have pointed out, though it is unclear if Breivik has yet to grasp this point. He seems lamentably politically correct in some ways and at times spouts feminist drivel of the worst kind, such as, “Ethical dilemmas which involve sex can often appear in situations where there is a significant power difference or where there is a pre-existing professional relationship between the participants, or where consent is partial or uncertain” (p. 1173). This is the kind of feminist tripe used to legitimize the worst sex laws against men, and sadly he appears to have internalized it.

Nonetheless, Breivik was sufficiently angered by the Norwegian feminist/Marxist regime to attack it with the utmost vengeance. As was I before I got a girlfriend; the difference being my relative lack of conscientiousness and restraint in expressing my views. As a very public MRA already on the radar for intending violence, there would be no way I could purchase the ingredients to make a bomb without arousing suspicion; and even if I could, I would be unlikely to have the patience and diligence to complete a clandestine project on such a scale. But I would still be able to make a bloody nuisance of myself.

Breivik is being called insane right now for fancying himself at war with the establishment, and apparently regarding some newly founded incarnation of the Knights Templar as the legitimate authority in Europe. While that does seem a bit grandiose and perhaps fictitious, we must not forget that his perspective spans more than 60 years. By 2083, it is entirely possible, I think, that we may go through a civil war in Europe, the outcome of which is uncertain. I will not be surprised if Breivik turns out to be a greater hero in the long run to more people than the Marxist “traitors” he executed. Now he will surely gain a bevy of female admirers, as well.

Being born just one year apart, we grew up under similar circumstances. Norway today is a society sick to the core. It is a place which breeds monsters out of the betas and omegas in a sexual market increasingly skewed against males. I am not sure Breivik is properly considered just another beta going on a rampage out of sexual frustration (Breivik seems to me so idealistic his actions transcend sexuality, but then again it is usually a mistake to think men do anything at all for any reason other than to get laid), as fellow Roissysphere blogger Whiskey contends, but I know how close I was to such a rampage myself, and undoubtedly we will see increasing violence if feminist sexual politics is allowed to continue. I don’t particularly have a dog in the Christian vs. Islam fight (maybe this shows bad character, but I would not be averse to convert to Islam if that was the way to get laid), and now that I have a girlfriend I am not out in the front lines attacking feminists, either, but I remain politically aware, and recent events have been a step in the right direction insofar as they demonstrate a willingness among conservative men to revolt against the heretofore completely dominant left.

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Eivind Berge said...

Greetings! Interesting blog. Never heard of the "committed personal responsibility movement" before, but it sounds like something I would be sympathetic to. I am indeed willing to discuss these issues openly with anybody. You got it wrong if you think I hate women, though. Antifeminism is about resisting hateful and unfair laws against men, which I consider more important than any other political problem, including the Islamization of Europe. So really the only thing I have in common with Breivik is anti-feminism, and passion to fight the feminist police state.

Andrea Muhrrteyn said...

Hi Eivind,

You never heard of the personal responsibility movement?

Wow! Well perhaps you know it under other names: personal growth? Much of the personal growth movement: the honest stuff, rather than the pr bullshit feelgood crap, is about teaching how personal growth is related to the capability of taking personal responsibility for our thoughts, actions, beliefs, etc.

I don't think you hate women. I don't know. I always ask people whether they do or not, whenever it appears there is are multiple interpretations to their motivations (which is almost 100% of the time! ;-)) Even if I did think you hate women, I'd first have to be honest with myself about how I define 'hate' and how any of your actions fit my defintion of hate. And if I was very honest; I'd have to admit that my definition of hate, may not be yours, or anyone else's, and so while I may conclude your action was hate, I'd have to take personal responsibility that it was a result of my definition of hate, when your actions don't match other definitions of hate!

I would like to have our conversation in blog posts. I am just finishing another project, which shall finish on the 16th, and then I hope to compile a blog post for you with various questions, as to your definitions of abstract terms. So that I am clear about how you define the issues: particularly feminism, and 'hateful and unfair laws against men.' I shall also provide you with my definitions.

From there we can see where our conversation goes, as time allows us.

Does that suit you?

Eivind Berge said...

Yes, that sounds good. I shall respond as time permits, if you tell me exactly what your definitions and opinions are. I look forward to your new blog post on that.

I never heard of the personal responsibility movement by that name, but it sounds a lot like cognitive liberty, which I fully support. I see you have a Facebook page about the right to be held criminally accountable for one's actions regardless of what psychiatrists may diagnose you with, and that is very important to me. I might add the right to refuse "treatment." Unfortunately, these rights don't exist at this time.

If you mean personal growth as presented in much of the popular self-help literature, then I am less sympathetic, as that seems largely based on ignoring external reality and trying to feel good inside regardless of your circumstances. Also they frequently make insane claims contrary to the scientific world view about what is possible and promote nonsense like the Law of Attraction. That type of pseudoscience movement I want nothing to do with, but I am totally in favor of personal responsibility. Even if we may ultimately not have free will in a philosophical or metaphysical sense, I certainly believe in taking personal responsibility for our thoughts and actions.

Andrea Muhrrteyn said...

Hi Eivind,

I am working on my personal interpretation of feminism et al; for your response. You are correct it is not called the 'personal responsibility' movement; that is what I call it; and my preference is also for what you refer to as cognitive liberty. I have little time for the personal growth you refer to, for the same reasons you state. It is for exactly that reason that I don't use the term 'personal growth', but personal responsibility! ;-)

Anyway, my attention is now focussed on clarifying my current working hypothesis perspective on the issue of feminism and the gender wars! ;-)

Hope it won't take more than a few days at most, hopefully sooner.

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