[2.7-4.2] Anders Breivik Psychiatric Report 2011-11-29, by Torgeir Husby & Synne Sørheim
Breivik Report | 2011-11-29 | Torgeir Husby & Synne Sørheim
"[Breivik] emphasizes that if he had not been censored by the media all his life, he would not have had to do what he did. He believes the media have the main responsibility for what has happened because they did not publish his opinions.... The low-intensity civil war that he had already described, had lasted until now with ideological struggle and censorship of cultural conservatives...... He explains that this is the worst day of his life and that he has dreaded this for 2 years. He has been censored for years. He mentions Dagbladet and Aftenposten as those who among other things have censored him..... He says that he also wrote “essays” that he tried to publish via the usual channels, but that they were all censored..... The subject summarizes: As long as more than twelve were executed, the operation will still be a success. The experts ask how the number twelve comes into consideration. Twelve dead are needed to penetrate the censorship wall, he explains..... About his thoughts on the Utøya killings now, the subject says: The goal was to execute as many as possible. At least 30. It was horrible, but the number had to be assessed based on the global censorship limit. Utøya was a martyrdom, and I am very proud of it..... The subject says in the conversation that he knows the truth that is hidden from others. He believes that there is a civil war in the country. He believes he had to kill at least twelve, because there is a censorship-wall preventing an open debate about what is happening in the country..... So I knew I had to cross a certain threshold to exceed the censorship-wall of the international media."
2.7 Child Welfare Service/Social Welfare Service/Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
A significant amount of documents from the early 1980s regarding a child custody law-suit and observation at the National Center for Child and Adolescent Psychiatry are attached to the documents relating to the case. Attached are also documents from 1994 to 1995, when the child welfare service did an investigation in connection with Breivik having been arrested for tagging.
2.7.1 Child care case 1981-1984
Respite care home 1981
The case starts in 1981 when Breivik’s mother contacts the social security service, where a document dated 3 August 1981 states that she applied for a stay in a weekend home for Breivik, perhaps also for his sister. The application is justified by her single parent care for the children with little relief, since she has no friends or relatives in Oslo. She describes her son as very demanding and she has gradually been worn down both physically and mentally. To improve her revenue, she was planning to take a half night shift job as a nurse. The application is recommended in a decision dated 16 October 1981 and respite care homes are available.
National Center for Child and Adolescent Psychiatry SSBU 1983-1984
Breivik’s mother contacted the family counseling office early in 1983 and was then referred SSBU, where she and the children were received in the family division for a stay from 1 to 25 February 1983. From page 2 of the admission note is quoted:
2.7.2 Child custody case 1983
At some point during the spring of 1983, the father enters the case with a lawyer and he receives a letter dated 25 August 1983 containing treatment information from SSBU, in which the institution expresses its concerns. The father wants custody of Breivik, but the mother contests via her lawyer. There is some correspondence between the lawyers and on 3 October 1983, the City Court of Oslo passes a preliminary judgment in favor of the mother. Meanwhile, the court has decided to appoint two experts to investigate the matter. In the meantime, Breivik shall stay with his mother.
Upon the judgment, the father gives up his claim for custody and the City Court of Oslo concludes the matter in a new judgment on 23 October 1983, when the parties in joint pleadings consider the matter as settled.
The father stated his reasons through his lawyer in a letter to SSBU dated 6 October 1983. From the letter is quoted:
The City Court has now given its ruling in the above case in favor of XXXXX.
After the court session, XXXXX and his wife XXXXX have started to hesitate. At first, they had the feeling it was clear that Anders was in an emergency situation and they did not hesitate not to welcome Anders in their home.
Now, however, they feel that they have to fight to get Anders. This is a new situation and suddenly they feel placed in circumstances they’ve never had the intention to end up in. They want to have Anders if his current situation is untenable, but they will not blacken his current situation to get him.
XXXXX is therefore of the opinion that if the public authority finds that Anders’ situation is untenable, then by virtue of its authority it should do something about it, and his desire to take charge of Anders is in force.
I have now tried to shed light on XXXXX’s and XXXXX’s views on the matter, and would like to hear your comments.
After this, a letter dated 28 October 1983 is sent from SSBU represented by psychologist XXXXX to the XXXXX social security office, in which XXXXX summarizes the situation, concluding as follows:
Consequently, a new situation has emerged that the child welfare authorities have to deal with. We confirm our original conclusion that Anders’ care situation is so failing that he is in danger of developing more severe psychopathology, and hereby we repeat our assessment on the necessity of a changed care situation for Anders. We believe this is our duty according to the Children Act, § 12, cf. § 16 a. Now that the father has withdrawn his lawsuit, the child welfare service should take up the matter on its own initiative.
The child welfare service perceives this as a note of concern and begins an investigation that ends with a report dated 4 April 1984. From page 3 of the report it is quoted:
XXXXX social welfare district has examined the matter in accordance with the Child Welfare act § 17 during home visits by our home consultant on 19 December 1983, 9 January 1984 and 8 February 1984, and through contacts with the mother at the office.
From the outset, the office found that the family functioned well. The mother seemed orderly and neat, with control – easy to talk to, calm and unaffected whatever the content of the conversation.
The girl was quiet, well behaved and gentle.
A was a sympathetic, relaxed guy with a warm smile that immediately makes one like him. During conversation at home, he was busy at the dinner table with games, clay and playmo together with the mother and the home consultant. After a while he remained sitting alone in the kitchen while we were talking in the living room. There was never any argument, neither were bad words uttered between the family members. A was very well behaved, never grumpy neither in opposition. The mother does not change her expression and does not get excited in difficult situations with A. She speaks quietly and A receives the message and does what she says.
Although the situation seemed one of natural harmony during our home visits, we have reason to ask how the family members react in difficult situations when the home consultant is not present. These observations were made in the morning, afternoon and good night situations, respectively. The first home visit was announced, the last two were not.
The mother proposes the following solutions:
The mother would like to be relieved by the father using his visiting rights.
Assessment: 37 year old divorced woman with custody of 2 children: girl born -73 and A. born -79.
The announcement from the national center and the report regard A: “The mother has been in sporadic contact with our office since the separation from A’s father in the summer of 1980.
From September -82 until July -83, the contact was periodic. From October -83, she has had some financial help in addition to the home visits in connection with the child welfare case.
In the period until to the moment when the mother contacted the National Center for Child and Adolescent Psychiatry in January -83, the case officer was increasingly concerned, in particular about A’s situation. Gradually, it became evident that in crisis situations, it was extremely difficult for her to function in relation to A: [...]
The case officer felt that the mother could benefit from contact with the treatment services and saw it as very favorable, both for her and for her relation to A, when she got in touch.
That the national center concluded by proposing placement in a foster home was somewhat surprising, but one found it appropriate to support this conclusion, in particular because the mother had proposed such a solution several times herself. At that time, the case was not submitted to the child welfare committee, because the father proposed to take over custody.
After this, for several months one did not have any contact with the mother for several months, because one knew that the case was on trial.
When the notification came from the National Center XXXXX in a letter dated 28 October 1983, one found reason to take it very seriously based on previous knowledge of the family. An investigation was launched in accordance with the Child Welfare act § 17.
One found that the family’s situation was slightly changed. They have settled in a new house and life seems to have become more stable. According to the kindergarten, A. functions very well and they have no remarks to the relationship between him and his mother.
The case officer still believes there is reason to be concerned about how the mother will be able to come to overcome subsequent crises, but does not find that this concern in itself is enough to suggest care takeover.
One has considered what other measures the office can take, including supervision of the family. The office has very limited resources for regular follow-up of the family and will suggest home visits about once a month. The purpose of proposing supervision is to keep up to date with the family’s situation and possibly prevent it from getting under more pressure. Despite the fact that the situation now looks more stable, we know that at times the mother cannot manage. She has also expressed that she has a hard time handling the situation. Again, one will discuss with the mother if she is interested in a support person or in a weekend home for A. to get other adult contacts than just herself.
It is also important that the parents find a practical solution regarding the possibility of A. to have contact with his father. The mother also desires this.
Conclusion: Despite sharing to a large extent the concern expressed in the notification from psychologist XXXXX at the National Centre for child and adolescent psychiatry, one finds that foster home placement is out of the question in the current situation. Cf. Child Welfare Act § 19. However, one suggests supervision for a short period ending in December 1984 for the social security office to keep continuously informed about the family situation and follow A’s development.
1. The home is put under supervision in accordance with Child Care act § 18 a: “Depending on the circumstances in each case, the committee may carry out one or more of the following preventive measures:
a) Put the home under supervision by appointing a supervisor for the child under the provisions of Chapter VI ” cf. § 16 a:
“Protective measures relevant to this section may be taken for children under 18 years of age
a) when the child is treated or is living under such conditions that its health (physical/mental) or development is subject to damage or serious risk.
We base our proposal of supervision on the mother’s repeated inquiries with the desire to get help in crisis situations, for example to get the children placed in foster homes, weekend homes etc. and that she often has changed her mind afterwards regarding the necessity and usefulness of this. We therefore find it necessary to follow up on the family situation in a short period of time, through regular contact with the social security office.
We also build our proposal on the statement in connection with the announcement from the National Center for child and adolescent psychiatry, i.e. Anders’ care situation is so precarious that he is in danger of developing more severe psychopathology.
2. The supervision will be carried out by XXXXX.
3. New report within 1 January 1985.
On 25 June 1984, the child welfare committee in Oslo reached the following decision:
The mother, XXXXX and social security officer XXXXX met and gave their opinions.
Based on the lawyer’s report and the present situation of the family, the child welfare committee has decided the following:
Unanimous resolution: 1 The committee finds that the conditions for protective measures are not present, according to the child care act § 16 a. Case is dismissed as of the investigations carried out, according to the child care act § 17.
2.7.3 Child care case 1994-1995
In 1994/95 a new child care case was opened when the subject, then 15 years old, was caught on the train from Denmark alone with a large number of spray cans in his luggage. The case was dismissed without assistance and child welfare work, and the conclusion of the matter is reproduced below:
Termination of investigation by the Child Welfare Act § 4-3. Dismissal without any action by the same law.
Anders Behring Breivik, personal identification number XXXXXXXXXXXX
BACKGROUND / MESSAGE CONTENT
Message received from the child welfare services in Oslo 23.12.94. The boy was stopped at Oslo Central Station by the police when he arrived by train from Denmark with 43 spray cans in his bag. His mother did not know he was in Denmark.
He has been in Denmark once before without telling the mother. The boy has two previous charges for graffiti / vandalism. (February / March 1994).
Given the child welfare service’ information, this is assessed as worrisome and the case is conveyed to the child welfare service at Ullern social center for information and possible follow-up.
The message was clarified on 1/13/95.
18/01/95: Telephone inquiries to Oslo police station for more information about who is responsible for the case there.
25/01/95: Phone Enquiries from Majorstua police with information about which school the boy attends, as well as information that he socializes with a known tagger group.
25/01/95: Conversation with the boy and mother in the office.
01/30/95: Conversation with the boy in the office.
02/02/95: Letter from Anders stating he does not want more cooperation with the child protection services because of “revelations” in school.
07/02/95: Appointment with the boy in the office. Did not show up.
13/02/95: Appointment with the mother and the boy here in the office. None of them showed up.
The initial conversation was largely influenced by the details and clarifications of the described conditions.
His mother is worried that her son will end up in a criminal career. The boy has a more trivializing relation to what the message is about.
Based on what came up in conversation, the mother and the boy have reconciled regarding his visits to Denmark.
EVALUATION / Conclusion
We entered into a cooperative relationship with the boy and his mother, but later, the boy wrote a letter to us in which he stated that he did not want further collaboration with child protection services. The mother has also withdrawn the statement of consent to the collection of information.
The conditions described are seen as not very serious from the child welfare service. The fact that the boy has been in Denmark alone, without the parents’ permission can in itself be bad enough, but in isolation it is more a family matter that does not require special intervention by child welfare services.
When it comes to tagging / vandalism, these are matters that are settled in relation to the injured after the conflict mediation council 6/21/94.
The conversation with the mother gave the impression that she is looking seriously at the described conditions. She also gives the impression of being able to solve problems herself at home, possibly in cooperation with the boy’s father.
What is left as a real concern is the sense of belonging he possibly has with the tagger community, such communities have a reputation for having activities and behavior that can border on criminal activities. The boy himself said he does not socialize with the tagger community anymore.
The case is not considered to be serious enough to intervene with assistance from the child welfare services.
The terms of § 4-4 of the Child Welfare Act is not considered to be present, so the investigation is dismissed without further assistance.
Ullern social center, child welfare services.
2.8 Compendium written by the subject, also referred to as the manifest
Whenever the experts refer to page numbers in the manifest, these refer to the page numbering in the police’s work copy in PDF format. The copy contains 1801 pages. In the work copy, paragraphs with small print in the original manifest are converted to normal font.
2.8.1 Assumptions for the expert review of the compendium
The experts have carefully considered the extent to which it is appropriate to go into the subject’s compendium 2083, hereafter called the compendium.
To begin with, the experts rated the compendium as a possible important source of information. After the committee started the talks with the subject, and then learned of his ability and will to cooperate, we have been able to significantly reduce the importance of the compendium as a source of information for the forensic psychiatric statement. The experts have found it far more useful to ask the subject to comment on the various topics the compendium covers, directly, to the extent that these have been of importance for the forensic psychiatric statement.
When reviewing the compendium, the experts considered whether it contained information that went beyond what the subject has told the experts. The experts have also asked the subject to assess parts of the compendium in order to get his account of how these parts are believed to appear for the casual reader.
The experts have not gone much into the historical part of the compendium, nor have they made that the subject of further discussion with the subject. The subject has in talks with the experts explained the historical significance of the historical section of the compendium and has assured the committee about his extensive study of the topic. This is accounted for in the meeting minutes.
Likewise, the experts have only to a small extent used the compendium in a review of the subject’s political views and his use of terms related to this. However, this has been a topic of great importance for the subject, and all terms in the compendium of special importance have been mentioned and accounted for by the subject as far as it has been desirable and possible. The experts have reviewed the introductory chapters of the compendium to understand the subject’s basic ideas and thinking, and to make sure that significant areas are not left out.
The experts have briefly gone through the more technical and chemical aspects of the compendium in order to get an overview. The experts’ interest in these areas have limited themselves to see if they reveal certain aspects of the subject incoherent, that is, see if he appears as complete or fragmented. We have also used the same considerations on the operational part of the compendium, in which the subject describes the preparation of the impugned acts.
2.8.2 Important remark:
The experts stress that they have not taken a position on the subject’s political message or point of view. This is obviously beyond the experts’ mandate. Likewise, the experts have no qualifications to assess the compendium’s literary quality or the quality of the materials he has quoted, or otherwise produced.
For the experts it has been the egocentric bias in the compendium that has been of importance and interest, i.e. the subject’s own perceived importance given both directly derived from historical events and his subsequent self-given, future importance for Europe and the world.
The experts will only provide a brief general comment, as well as some short particular comments to the compendium and its content:
2.8.3 General consideration:
The experts were immediately puzzled about the concept of the compendium. The subject’s proclaimed intention with the compendium is to save Europe from multiculturalism and Islamic takeover, and he has stated to the experts that the spreading of the compendium was his ultimate goal of the entire operation. He has however had several approaches to the latter.
Against this background, the experts registered the subject’s inability to see the compendium’s obvious, banal, and sometimes downright infantile wording in some parts of it. The subject appears, both objectively through academic achievement and by clinical impression, rather intelligent than the opposite. The experts therefore find it reasonable to question the reasons for producing such a text.
Given that one can ascertain his intelligence, one must ask the question what such a lack of overall understanding can be caused by. The experts have put this in the context of a development in the subject, where he from some point between 2000 and 2006 seems to lose and thereafter lack the overall, cognitive and intellectual functions that one would expect that he would use to assess the outside world’s experience and understanding of the product.
The experts will in the review chapter return to the issue that his general cognitive and intellectual decline is as a basis for all the subject’s assessments.
When one considers the compendium from this perspective, it appears both in the individual parts and as a concept almost pathetically self-centered, where he at the most banal level goes into detail about his thoughts and activities almost from birth to date.
The way this appears to the experts, the compendium, both in its entirety and in detail as commented below, gives clear suspicions about basic and underlying delusions of grandeur.
Such egocentricity may very well be explained as a function of the lack of distance and self-criticism in basic delusions of grandeur. This is reflected in the way the subject treats his own importance and in the way he eventually ends up appointing himself as a midwife of the new era and the new Europe.
Although the subject some places in the manifest modifies his own importance by referring to how others may get influence in the future, it appears almost as the birth text that establishes his role in an almost all-encompassing later salvation context.
2.8.4 Special considerations
22.214.171.124 Fundamental delusions of grandeur
• Knights Templar
The specific parts that immediately caught the experts’ attention and interest are the sections on the design and construction of the community he describes as Knights Templar, which is his background for using the plural we when he talks to us about his operation and reasons and forces around this.
The subject devotes significant and zealous attention to the issue, from this one can conclude its importance for the subject. It is, both in the compendium and during conversation with the subject, unclear and very difficult to understand to what extent and if at all someone else is in the picture, or if the organization, including other cells in activity, in its entirety is a product of the subject’s imagination, as well as a legitimization of we as a concept.
The experts observe the passion and obvious fascination with which the subject theoretically “constructs” an organization with awards and decorations down to the smallest detail. Inspired primarily by the U.S. military tradition, he uses a lot of time and space to create a hierarchical glorification of heroes and martyrs, also along the lines of Islamic martyrdom and on a medieval backdrop.
The experts then observe that it all ends up in the decorations he believes he has earned after completing the operation, whether this would end in his own martyrdom with death in battle, or the way he believes it is now ended, namely, with full completion of the operation and further struggle from the very status and position his deeds have caused.
In his compendium, the subject uses considerable space to clarify various definitions and lines of command that all shall reveal his unique position in a future society. The manifest’s review of previous knights, reproduced with historic photos in halos, will form a backdrop for understanding the rank he has awarded himself as Justiciar Knight Commander.
In his compendium, the subject describes himself as having a future national importance as National Grand Master Knight Commander or a European importance as a Pan-European Grand Master Knight Commander.
The subject has acquired a sort of uniform, and have in all seriousness let himself be photographed, decorated with the medals he believes he merits. The image is part of the conclusion of the compendium and is put together with pictures of himself in battle position. In contrast, the subject has placed images of his family, happy and dressed for a party with his mom and sister.
• The subject’s interview with himself: Further studies, compendium page 1605.
For the experts, the parts of the interview that focus on further detailed clarification of the subject’s political views are of lesser importance. The experts, however, have emphasized the interview as a concept, and the importance the subject gives himself by this.
In this light one can see the subject’s statements about how family and friends have tempted and pressured him to live a normal life, and what he thought about that. It is quoted from the manifest page 1616:
This is exactly what my family and friends have implored me to do for years now. They have pressured me and I must admit I have been somewhat ridden by guilt in this regard. At the same time I know what has to be done. I could never ignore the current situation without doing anything. In this regard I felt I had two choices. Create a large family (3-5 children) or completely focus on my tasks as a part of the European resistance movement.
The subject’s descriptions are reminiscent of previous historical/religious figures who have been tempted to take the broad road and a bourgeois life in contrast to the task of salvation along the narrow path and emerge with deprivation and possible martyrdom.
• Knights Templar Log, compendium page 1682
This section of more than 70 pages is further evidence of the compendium’s more banal, egocentric approach. The entire section is characterized by somewhat detailed descriptions, first of first friends and then of his own development from the ordination in 2002 to an almost round-the-clock description of his actions before the criminal events. These diary-like notes are interspersed with long expositions on how the subject chemically and technically has gone forward.
The description of the subject’s friends is a fairly meaningless detailed description of insignificant details, partly dotted with distant or indirect negative characteristics, to completely banal details of parties and alcohol consumption in Budapest and Oslo.
The experts find that such an approach documents a clear self-centered position and a more grandeur-like world view, meaning: “The details are important because they are details about my person and that makes even the smallest details important.” The same applies to the subject’s further diary-like notes, alternating between technical details and personal events. In this document, the detailed records seem to be motivated by the subject’s understanding of his own extraordinary importance, and thereby serve as documentation of his way to martyrdom and thus a recipe for others to do the same.
From page 1706 an example of what is described above is quoted :
I have been storing three bottles of Château Kirwan 1979 (French red wine) which I purchased at an auction 10 years ago with the intention of enjoying them at a very special occasion. Considering the fact that my martyrdom operation draws ever closer I decided to bring one to enjoy with my extended family at our annual Christmas party in December, I brought the other flask to XXXXXXX party a few days later and shared it with my friends. It was an absolutely exquisite experience that will not be forgotten. My thought was to save the last flask for my last martyrdom celebration and enjoy it with the two high class model whores I intend to rent prior to the mission. My interpretation of being a “Perfect Knight” does not and should not include celibacy, although some of my KT peers might disagree with me on this point. I believe that in order to strengthen the resolve, morale and motivation prior to a martyrdom operation, the Justiciar Knight should be encouraged to embrace and take advantage of a significant reward system designed to increase focus and remove any last doubts. A pragmatic approach, which involves acknowledging the primal aspects of man for the purpose of preparing him for a martyrdom operation, should always take precedence over misguided piety, which only increases the chance of jeopardizing the execution of the operation. And I believe the majority of war strategy analysts will agree with me on this.
The subject refers to himself on page 1707, in section 3 as follows:
I have an extremely strong psyche (stronger than anyone I have ever known)
and then in the 4th section:
Regardless of the above cultural Marxist propaganda; I will always know that I am perhaps the biggest champion of cultural conservatism, Europe has ever witnessed since 1950. I am one of many destroyers of cultural Marxism and as such; a hero of Europe, a savior of our people and of European Christendom — by default. A perfect example which should be copied, applauded and celebrated. The Perfect Knight I have always strived to be. A Justiciar Knight is a destroyer of multiculturalism, and as such; a destroyer of evil and a bringer of light. I will know that I did everything I could to stop and reverse the European cultural and demographical genocide and end and reverse the islamisation of Europe.
• Additional comments on the delusions of grandeur
As a concept, the compendium may appear similar to the way earlier saviors have been described in associated books. One can see the similarity with the Bible, which is also divided into different books. The compendium contains many descriptions that evoke associations with religious-like grandeur delusions.
Examples of this are the Knigths Templar‘s 12 founders in London (reminiscent of Jesus’ 12 disciples), temptations from others, the salvation aspect, preparing for martyrdom and to share a bottle of wine with the closest relatives before martyrdom. In addition, the strange ritual of sharing the last bottle with a hired prostitute can resemble Mary Magdalene-like theories.
126.96.36.199 General enemy concept, paranoia and grandeur
Without going into the subject’s political judgments, the experts note that his perception of the state of Europe and the state of Norway is extreme. Many of his interpretations and claims are without foundation. However, it seems most of this material is rather an application of existing political currents than a creation of his own, since a lot of it is cut and pasted from various web sites and historical sources. This is to say that his quotes and conclusions are shared by a number of people in Norway and elsewhere in Europe.
However, the experts are stricken by the intensity of the subject’s war terminology and his experience and description of being in a war which is leading up to the criminal acts. The experts can ascertain, both in the compendium and through contacts with him in our conversations and in the course of questioning, that he actually both emotionally and in reality has the perception of war, destruction and his own task of salvation.
The subject describes himself as in a situation with only two outcomes; destruction of his own culture and existence or the salvation by his martyrdom and long-term victory, with the final victory in year 2083.
188.8.131.52 Detailed diary July 2011 page 1741:
The subject’s records are for the most part detail-oriented about his activities, chemical planning, car rental and procurement of equipment. He describes with enthusiasm how he kills spiders in Åsta east, and he devotes much space to details around his daily tasks of a chemical character.
In the last part of the compendium’s diary entries, the subject has described a history of gold mining in Finnmark on the dates 21 and 22 July 2011. This he describes as the remnant of a cover story he had written into the manifest in case he was caught before the criminal acts. The subject did not have time, or in his own words he forgot, to remove the notes before the manifest was distributed. Quote:
Thursday July 21 – Day 81: Drive 11 hours straight to Kautokeino, sort out cheap hotel
Friday July 22 – Day 82: Initiate blasting sequences at pre-determined sites. Test dirt for gram of gold per kg. Have enough material for at least 20 blasts. Start capitalization of project as soon as I have results. Time is running out, liquidity squeeze inc. Call/email all my investor contacts with updated online prospectus/pdf.
This is going to be an all-or-nothing scenario. If I fail to generate acceptable precious metals yields, in combination with swift initiation of the capitalization for securing the areas I will be heavily indebted. I must complete capitalization of the mineral extraction project within August at latest! When I have the required seed capital I will have enough funds to employ the services of professional blasting engineers.
If all fails, I will initiate my career with a private security firm in conflict zones to acquire maximum funds in the shortest period of time to repay the debts.
First coming costume party this autumn, dress up as a police officer. Arrive with insignias :-) Will be awesome as people will be very astonished :-)
Side note; imagine if law enforcement would visit me the next days. They would probably get the wrong idea and think l was a terrorist,
184.108.40.206 Agriculture manuals/family photos
The subject has a 15-page batch of agricultural how-to’s and a subsequent dictionary of agriculture. His reason for this, expressed upon a direct question from the experts, is that he believes his way is the only one or best one, and that he therefore must be sufficiently detailed so that his followers may learn from his experiences.
Furthermore, he then concludes the manifest with miscellaneous photographs where a picture of a dressed up family with mother, sister and himself emerges as the most glaring in its contrast to the case in general.
Both examples, very strange or bizarre in the context, can be seen as a direct result of the same considerations as described above with non-realistic grandeur and, consequently, a total lack of self-criticism.
2.9 Expert opinion from the Public Health Authority regarding intoxication
Medical examination done at the time of arrest concluded that the subject could be mildly influenced.
The subject had also stated that he had taken steroids and stimulating substances and it was therefore made an assessment of the impact level by division director, prof. dr. meg. Jørg Morland, partially quoted here, but without the general drug information as this statement is believed to be documented by a separate expert witness in the case:
From document 03.02.06 it is stated that the accused in the period 25/4 – 15/6/2011 used 40 mg Dianabol a day by ingestion of 4 tablets. Allegedly he had also taken a dietary supplement, Mariatistel. In the period 15/6 – 22/7/2011 he has used 50 mg Stanasolol (Vinistrol) daily, in addition to Mariatistel. The accused has used an antihistamine preparation (probably Loratadine), principally through the course of a week about 14 days before the current event (doc. 03.02.01, 02.03.06). The 2-3 final days leading up to 22/07/2011 he has taken a mixture of ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin, which the accused has called “Ekastac”. From the case document 03.02.01 it seems that this “Ekastac” mixture is something the accused has mixed himself. One misses further time information for the intake of “Ekastac on 22 July 2011. The bomb explosion occurred at 15:26 hours, on 22 July 2011, followed by shooting throughout the afternoon the same day. After the arrest, a blood sample was obtained from the accused at 01:51 hours and a urinalysis at 01:37 hours on 23 July 2011. In this connection at 01:39 hours a clinical examination was performed by a physician.
In the examination, there were some deviations from the norm in the sense that the accused’s face/skin was described as flushed. He was also described as tired-looking with shiny eyes, large pupils and slow reactions to light. The doctor also stated that the accused’s behavior/state of mind was adequate/normal, but somewhat shaken. The doctor concluded that the accused appeared to be mildly influenced at the time of the clinical examination. It was further noted that the effects could be attributed to the use of ephedrine, but that some of the findings made during the survey could also be caused by psychological stress. In connection with the clinical forensic examination conducted on 26 July 2011, see document 03.02.06, hair samples were taken of the accused.
New hair samples were taken of the defendant on 31.08.2011, i.e. about 5 weeks after 22 July 2011.
The blood sample taken on 23 July 2011 at 01:51 contained ephedrine (a central nervous stimulant) in a concentration of 0.2 micromoles per liter, a concentration of caffeine of 19.3 micromoles per liter, and a cotinine (an inactive conversion product of nicotine) concentration of 1.3 micromoles per liter. Salicylic acid (the active ingredient in aspirin) was not detected. Urine samples taken on 23/7/2011 at 01:37 contained ephedrine. The sample also contained transformation products of stanozolol and decreased levels of luteinizing hormone, LH (doc 03.02.07).
Hair samples taken on 26/7/2011 contained ephedrine. I this sample, metandienon (active substance Dianabol) and stanozolol were also detected.
Hair samples taken on 31/8/2011 contained ephedrine and stanozolol.
Both hair samples have been analyzed at the Institut fur Dopinganalytik und Sportbiochemie Dresden. A copy of the analysis report from this institute is included.
About the substances:
Ephedrine is a central nervous stimulant drug which primarily has medical applications because of its ability to affect the respiratory system in a beneficial way for people with asthma, bronchitis and similar lung problems. Ephedrine can, depending on the dose size, provide central nervous stimulant effects similar to amphetamines. These will be rejuvenating effects, faster heart rate and blood pressure rise. Higher doses and higher blood concentrations may give intoxication symptoms where increased confidence, increased risk-taking and loss of critical skills may occur. It is also assumed that there will be an increased risk of aggression and violence. Physical agitation, tremors, sweating and mild breathing problems may accompany this. Furthermore, particularly at high doses, mild confusion, sensory distortions, paranoid thoughts, or illusions and hallucinations and dizziness may occur. High doses symptoms will be similar to those that may occur with the use of amphetamines and other central nervous stimulant drugs. These symptoms will usually be of short duration and often disappear after a few hours when the concentration of the central nervous stimulant drug drops. It has also been shown that such high-dose psychosis-like symptoms occur more easily in people with schizophrenia (Curran C et al (2004) Br. J. Psychiatry 185, 196-204).
In the literature, it is also described (Baselt, RC (2011) Biomed. Pubt, 591-94, Nyland H (1973) Tidsskrift for the Norwegian Medical Association. 93, 2027-29) that repeated administration of ephedrine for a long time can lead to the development of a psychotic condition with many similarities with schizophrenia and other psychoses triggered by the use of central nervous stimulants. It appears in the literature to be described in the order of 50 such cases of ephedrine triggered psychosis. In most cases it will involve the use of high daily doses, for example, around 200-300 mg per day.
The half-life of ephedrine given in the literature is indicated to be from 3 to 7 hours with respect to blood/plasma concentration.
Caffeine is the main active ingredient in e.g. coffee. Caffeine is a light central nervous stimulant drug, with far less potential to cause intoxication, compared with, for example, ephedrine and amphetamine. Caffeine generally provides reduced need for sleep and stimulating effects. Such effects would be likely to be registered by the typical “coffee drinking” levels of caffeine in the blood, from 5 to 20 micromoles per liter. On a more speculative basis, it has been assumed that caffeine can have effects in the brain that may reinforce the intoxication effect of, for example, ephedrine and amphetamine.
The half-life of caffeine is in the area of 3-12 hours in blood.
Anabolic steroids (AAS) like metandienon and stanozolol are substances that have similar effects as the male sex hormone, testosterone. They increase the structure of muscle mass by training, and have in large doses a number of side effects with regard to hormonal disturbances, increased risk of cardiovascular diseases and diseases of other organs. It is controversial whether the use of drugs can lead to increased risk of aggression and violence. An extensive survey (Report No. 4 (2004) National Health Services Research Centre) where more than 1,500 scientific papers were presented concluded that evidence has not been presented that small and medium doses of AAS lead to aggression or violence. The survey also concluded that “The combined information from the controlled clinical trials using the highest doses indicate that the use of AAS in large doses may in particularly susceptible individuals trigger psychological conditions that are referred to as mania/hypomania, i.e. conditions that may also involve increased aggression.”
There are many other observational studies in the field, with the common weakness that they are poorly controlled and have little value with respect to saying something about the causal relationship between use of AAS and the risk of violence.
Evaluation of analytical findings:
Ephedrine: In the experts’ opinion, the ephedrine concentration in the accused’s blood at the time of crime and the time immediately prior to this is the important point in this case. A calculation of the ephedrine concentration for the period between 12:00 to 15:30 on 22/7/2011, however, depends on the known last intake point for ephedrine. Currently there is no certain information about this. The expert has therefore assumed for now that the last intake was before 12.00 on 22/7/2011. Then it can be calculated that the ephedrine concentration in the accused’s blood at that time has been of the order of 0.6 to 1.5 micromoles per liter, by taking into account the half-life of ephedrine in the range of 6 to 4.5 hours. The calculated concentrations from 0.6 to 1.5 micromoles per liter would represent an intake of approximately 25 to 100 mg ephedrine if the intake took place some time before 12:00. When ephedrine is used for therapy, the single doses are usually around 20 to 60 mg. One finds therefore that the ephedrine intake may have represented what would be called a therapeutic dose of ephedrine, or a slightly higher dosage.
Caffeine: As for ephedrine, the time of last intake is not known. When it is assumed that this was before 12:00, we find that the caffeine concentration in the accused’s blood in the period 12:00-15:30 has been in the order of 80-125 micromol/liter by using a half-life of 5 hours. These are levels that might otherwise be achieved shortly after taking 500-800 mg of caffeine, which is equivalent to 4-6 cups of coffee of medium to high strength (130 mg caffeine/cup). In the literature (Baselt, RC (2011) Biomed. Pubt, 236-239) some cases are described of what might be called coffee intoxication with significant central nervous stimulant symptoms when the caffeine concentrations in the blood are 250 micromoles per liter or higher. On this basis, the expert believes that the accused may have been under the influence of caffeine to such an extent that a moderate intoxication effect can not be ruled out.
The importance of Anabolic steroids with regard to the impact in the form of altered state of mind or intoxication during the relevant period, at 12:00-15:30, is by the expert’s assessment highly unlikely. The interpretation of the measurements of AAS and transformation products indicates that the accused’s explanation regarding the use of these drugs may be correct. The reported usage represents a high dosage. This is not an extremely high consumption, even if it exceeds the therapeutic use in a medical context about 8 times with respect to dosage. Reports from the so-called AAS user communities mention even higher dosages.
Drug Effects in the period, at 12:00-15:30 on 22/7/2011:
The expert’s view of the mandate is reflected in the above heading.
According to the expert’s assessment, the impact in the period 12:00 to 15:30 may be described as a slight to moderate influence of a central nervous stimulant, depending on the assumed concentration. The impact is difficult to compare with the influence of alcohol, because of fundamental differences in the mechanism of effects of ephedrine and alcohol, but the impact can according to the expert’s assessment probably be equated to the impact that can be achieved by an intake of amphetamine (by mouth) of doses of the order of 10-30 mg of amphetamine by non-habitual users. The expert assumes a certain reinforcement of the ephedrine effects because of the significant effects of caffeine concentrations that may have existed.
Possibility of additional influence as a result of regular use of ephedrine and steroids in the period before 22/7/2011:
The reported use of ephedrine does not represent a long-term high dosage consumption. The analysis results do not point toward high dosage consumption.
The possibilities of an ephedrine-induced psychosis of some duration must be considered as minimal.
According to the expert’s assessment, the alleged use of anabolic steroids is unlikely to have caused any additional effect, but a possibility of enhanced aggression and hypomania/mania can not be ruled out completely.
2.10 LABORATORY report from the NORWEGIAN LABORATORY for DOPING ANALYSIS, OUS
An analysis has been done of the urine sample that was taken on 26/7/11 and sent to the doping laboratory at Aker by the public health institute NIPH. This is the result:
Assignment: Analysis of anabolic-androgenic steroids and other anabolic substances in urine (MD 10, MD 14).
Results: The urine sample confirmed the finding of 3′-hydroksystanozolol, 4(3-hydroksystanozolol and 16(3 hydroksystanozolol.
The concentration of the luteinizing hormone (LH) was 1.4 I E/l. Specific weight and pH were determined to 1.011 and 6.2, respectively. The endogenous steroids showed low concentrations in relation to population-based reference values.
Interpretation: The identified compounds are metabolites of stanozolol and the findings are consistent with the intake of anabolic-steroid stanozolol androgene.
The analysis is a qualitative analysis and a quantitative estimate of the substances must be interpreted with caution. Yet the amount of metabolites is consistent with the ingestion of stanozolol the last day(s) prior to sampling, hence also with the information on the requisition.
The low value of the LH and the low endogenous steroid concentrations indicate a suppression of the body’s own production of testosterone and its metabolites.
Note: Confirmation is done with chromatographic separation and mass spectrometric detection.
In addition, the screening analysis found ephedrine and phenylpropanolamine metabolite and a significant concentration of caffeine. These findings are not confirmed.
Peter Hemmersbach, prof dr laboratory manager
2.11 Letter to the mother from the sister of the subject, from 2009 or 2010
Attached to the questioning of the mother is a letter that the daughter XXXXX wrote to her mother. The letter expresses a despair by the distance and the difficulties in keeping contact with the brother. From the letter, consisting of three typed pages, it is quoted from page 2 about the subject:
Anders is not going anywhere, Mom. He wants nothing of life except what he has been doing over the last few years, plus what he is doing now. When you gave him the phone after you and I had talked, then he asked if he could call me later because he was in the middle of a “discussion”. I asked what kind of discussion, and he would not answer. When he called me back he said that he was playing computer games. So apparently he is still doing that! This is not normal, you know, Mom! He is 30 years old! Adults do not go about like this. There are many friends of mine that I grew up with who have decent jobs in Norway. Nothing much to brag about. They are not rich at all, but they are having a great time with what they have and think they have a good life with the jobs they have and friends and family.
3.0 Acquired Information
The experts have, with the subject’s written consent, obtained additional information beyond what is available in the received documents.
3.1 General Physician XXXXX
The subject has been associated with this center most of his life. The received medical records date back to 1991.
Overall one can say that the record contains no information about any serious illness, neither of somatic nor of psychiatric nature.
In the years from 1991, he is treated with allergy medications. In the mid-nineties, a couple of benign lipomas were removed. Furthermore, for a period he was treated for acne.
From 1998 he is intermittently treated for acute stress/situational imbalance in which he indicates heavy workloads and 15-hour days as a cause for insomnia. He gets a prescription for sleeping pills once or twice a year. In 2003, he requested treatment for hair loss. After 2003 there is only one prescription for sleeping pills in 2008. In 2010 he receives a medical certificate needed to obtain a driver’s license.
The following note dated 13/4/11 has been found:
Long conversation, he believes he has been infected by his mother’s sinus infection even though he has used a face mask before. First he had a soar throat, then nasal congestion and cough, this started a few days ago, he is somewhat better, but feels some pressure in the sinuses when he sneezes. He agrees to wait and see how it goes for a couple of days, use the nasal spray. Many questions and miscellaneous info. He thinks it is strange that he has a cold since he is living so healthily!
Trying to explain that this does not sound like sinusitis in need of treatment, at least try first without, and use nasal spray
On 15.04 antibiotics was prescribed. Physician XXXXXXXX stated in an additional note dated 24/8/11 that He did not wish to be examined at the clinic.
3.2 Follow-up by health care service at Ila prison
The experts have, with the subject’s written consent, obtained additional information beyond what is available in the received documents. Since then we have gained access to his medical records at Ila from 26/7/11 to date. Upon admission he was assessed on the same day by the psychiatric nurse with no particular findings. Then a medical evaluation of him was done the next day, also without specific findings. It is quoted from the consultation 27/7/11:
When he has finished dressing, he says it is ready. The cell is tidy. He gets up and shakes hands. He makes eye contact. He speaks an eloquent Oslo dialect and the sentences are coherent. There is no sign of incoherent language. When spoken to, he shows no sign of latency. He provides good formal contact. No emotional connection is perceived. His mood is stable throughout the conversation. His mood seems somewhat excited, almost cheerful.
He explains that he has carried out an operation. He uses military terms about what he has done and says that he is part of a network with the same attitude as he has.
When asked how he is, he says that he is doing fine in his cell. He is amazed at how well he is treated. He keeps in shape by carrying out a four-hour training program and in this way gets to exercise all the muscle groups of the body.
Medical history. He says that he has not been ill before. He uses no regular medication. He has never had a need for consulting a psychologist. He has used two types of anabolic steroids from the spring of 2011 until the 22/7. These he had purchased over the Internet. On 22/7 he took a preparation consisting of ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin for the purpose of raising performance.
When asked if he hears voices that others can not hear, the answer is negative. As described above, there are no signs of this in terms of stopping conversation for him to be able to listen to what the voices would say. Asked if he feels sadness or depression, he denies it. On the contrary he says that he feels very well. He is explained that the department manager has been told that he would take his life. He wonders where we have heard that. He is against suicide by principle and will not do it.
My assessment of the prisoner’s mental condition is that he does not appear depressed. There is no evidence of hallucinations as by psychosis, in particular, he is not guided by voices.
Suicide is the result of a depressive state, either after a prolonged depression or as a result of an acute despair. It can also happen during a psychosis in the form of inner voices commanding the patient to perform the action. At my exam today, I find no signs of depression or psychosis. The risk of suicide is therefore considered to be low.
During the next days he was assessed daily and observed especially for signs of suicidality. On 2/8/11, a formal admission assessment by physician XXXXXXXX was made, also with no findings with regard to psychosis, depression or suicidality.
On the following daysm the subject appears more depressed, but denies suicidal ideas. Begins to indicate his desire for life in percentages, and says he is between 10% on bad days and 25-30% on better days. He believes the apathy limit is at 0% and below that is where the suicidal thoughts would appear.
On 1/8/11 one discusses potential after-effects of his consumption of steroids before his arrest. At Aker one contacts the hormone lab, which conveys:
After contact with the responsible physician XXXXXXXX, possible symptoms such as loss of concentration, fatigue and depressed mood/depression are indicated. However, this will most likely, if at all, occur a few weeks after stopping consumption, when the drugs disappear from the body. In other words, no problems are expected as mentioned to begin with. Symptoms can be alleviated by the addition of testosterone. However, this is controversial in the medical community, and will extend the time util the body’s own production starts up again, if this happens, the following analyses are relevant: FSH, LH, testosterone and SHGB. Analysis of samples taken on 22/7 allegedly showed high concentration of stanozolol in the blood, and low production of testosterone.
Conversation with Breivik today at about 14:00. He says he is bored and wants access to more reading material. He is in need of smoke. This is dealt with by the prison guards. As previously stated, he has previously eaten sweets when stopping steroid intake to curb the discomfort. He will be allowed to purchase this with the help of the prison. Takes up the question of the length of the isolation period in Norwegian prisons, a discussion I do not enter. Reminds him again that the health service is there to safeguard his physical and mental health. He says he thinks about how a very long isolation (over years) will make it difficult to predict how he will cope. He think that prison units for the safeguarding of political prisoners like himself eventually will be built. For now, he is doing OK, and he said he will speak up if he notices any problems/depression etc. When asked, he indicates he tested the use of steroids earlier in order to find out how he could handle this. Prior to his “action” on 22/7, he had used the above mentioned steroid for a period of 9 weeks.
No changes are described in the subject’s condition in the subsequent weeks. He is assessed by psychiatrist Flikke without any particular findings on 9/9/11. From 14/9/11, health care is stepped down from daily to twice a week. This also goes on without any particular findings until the last note is made 2/11 by prison doctor XXXXX.
Supervision in the conference room at G. The conversation takes place through a glass wall. He seems alert and agile. Normal mood, and partially in a good mood. He says that he meditates several hours a day. This renews him and helps him to be creative and get new ideas when he wants to produce something. He describes himself as an intellectual person. He has thoroughly studied psychology and political analysis. The former he uses in his attempts to handle the isolation he feels. The latter to predict the impact his actions have had on the municipal election that was held, and on future elections. He feels that the authorities are in a hurry about his trial, so that this should not have a bad influence on the next election. We talk about that he must be stimulated through the body’s different senses. He agrees. He does not feel depressed. He has no thoughts of suicide*. Considered to be mentally stable. Low suicide risk.
3.3 MR SCAN
The experts requisitioned an MR scan of the subject’s head, but the subject did not wish to contribute to this. On the contrary, he considered it a violation of him as an ideological prisoner, as he regarded it as an insinuation of brain damage.
4.0 Interviews with persons who know the subject
4.1 Interview with the mother of the subject by both experts on 14 August 2011
The police informed the experts that the subject’s mother during the night of 23 July 2011 was admitted to the psychiatric ward of Diakonhjemmets hospital. This is the ward where expert Husby has his main job as head of the ward. At this time, expert Husby was on vacation.
When the expert Husby returned from his vacation, it was immediately made clear to the interviewee’s chief physician and treating physician that he would not participate in treatment meetings or other meetings where the interviewee was discussed. It was also clarified that the expert Husby would not have access to the interviewee’s journal.
The expert Sørheim took contact with the interviewee’s treating physician, dr. XXXXXXXX, a few days earlier to ask the interviewee via him if she would be willing to participate in conversations with the experts. Doctor XXXXXXX reported back by telephone that the interviewee accepted to do this.
The conversation took place at the expert Husby’s office at Diakonhjemmets hospital. The interviewee was initially informed of the expert Husby’s situation as head of department at the hospital, but without access to interviewee’s journal or therapy in general. The interviewee had no comments to this.
The interviewee was then informed of the committee’s mandate and information duty to the court, also on information provided by the interviewee. The interviewee accepted this and was willing to talk. The interviewee met the experts alone. The conversation lasted for three hours.
The interviewee initially said that she looked forward to the conversation, because she thinks psychiatry is interesting. She also immediately said that it has been a terrible burden to be the subject’s mother recently, especially in light of what was written in the media. The interviewee expressed being upset and angry by a lot of what she perceived as incorrect journalism.
The interviewee says the subject was born in 1979 and was a wanted and planned child. She already had a six year old daughter, XXXXXXXX, from a previous relationship. The subject’s father, the interviewee, XXXXX and the subject moved to London shortly after the subject was born. It came to a break-up between the interviewee and the subject’s father when the subject was one and a half years old. At this time, the interviewee moved back to Oslo.
When asked, the interviewee says that she does not know of any mental illness in the subject’s family, neither on the father’s nor the mother’s side.
The family, consisting of the interviewee, the subject and his half sister moved first into an apartment owned by the subject’s father XXXXXXXX in Oslo. The interviewee says she had the right to use the apartment until the subject reached the age of 18.
When the subject was about three and a half years old, the family moved to a five-room apartment on the XXXXXXXX in Oslo. The interviewee took out loans through OBOS and Oslo Municipality to finance the apartment. She was at this time in full-time job as a nurse and the subject went to Vigelandsparken kindergarten.
The interviewee can not remember that there were any particular concerns regarding the subject’s development through the younger years. She says: It came to a trial because Anders’ (The subject, the experts note) father wanted the boy to move in with them. In this connection, we stayed a period at the National Center for Child and Youth Psychiatry, but neither of us liked it there.
As far as the interviewee can remember, the subject enjoyed both kindergarten and home until he started school.
The subject started attending Smedstad school at the usual age. He was a good student, she says. The subject had friends, the family had good neighbors and it was a very, very good time. The subject’s sister XXXXX did fine, and the interviewee says that the subject was a boy it was easy to have good conversations with.
Through the years from 1st to 6th grade, it was never reported by the school or at parent’s meetings that the subject had academic, social or behavioral difficulties. He was never referred to evaluations of any kind and there was never any need for additional training or educational interventions for him.
As the others in the class, he started at Ris junior high school in for the 7th grade. The interviewee says: Nothing particular happened, he started to deliver the newspaper and did so for many years. I understood that everything was okay and did not hear anything else from the school either.
The interviewee says that the subject became tall and thin during the junior high school years. It was probably some of a complex for him< (i>, she says. After being introduced to a gym by his six years older sister, the subject started to exercise regularly. He exercised just about the right amount then, she says, adding: not like Rambo as he did this winter.
As the interviewee remembers, the subject did well academically in junior high as well. She was asked if he changed his circle of friends or made new friends. Not that I recall, she said. She adds: But I remember that he was caught for tagging once.
The episode the interviewee is referring to, took place when the subject was 14 years old. He began to buy spray cans and tagged with friends, she says. He made great “pieces”, but it is not allowed. We were several parents who worked together to try to reveal the purchase of spray cans. And then the police called and said they had caught him.
The interviewee says the subject got away with community service and a fine of 3,000 kroner. She adds that he had to use his savings to pay the fine. She also says: His father got to know about it, and he was terribly angry. He kind of closed the door on Anders then.
When the subject was 15 years old, in 1994, the family moved to XXXXXXXXXXX in Oslo. The interviewee says his big sister XXXXXXXX at this time had left home and that they therefore needed less space.
After finishing junior high, the subject started attending the commercial high school Oslo Handelsgym. The experts say that the subject himself said that before this he spent a year at Hartvig Nissen High School. This the mother does not believe this to be correct. It appears, however, that the mother in that year was diagnosed with XXXXXXXX and underwent surgery for this in 1995. She says she generally remembers little from this period because she was seriously ill.
The interviewee lived with the subject in XXXXXXXX until she moved to XXXXXXXX in 2001. This move coincided with the subject leaving home, and staying with a group in XXXXXXXX in Frogner.
The interviewee says she thought it went well at the Oslo Handelsgym until the subject after one and half year came home and said he would drop out of school. She remembers that he said he had enough experience, would start for himself, and said he did not need more education.
The interviewee says she was angry that he left school before he had completed high school. She says she was upset and very sad. She thought the subject had become so stubborn. She comments: Half of what he has told the police are lies. He has not been to 20 countries and does not have the education he claims to have.
During the time the subject was in high school, his mother remembers that he worked at ACTA, and DRS. He said he would save money, and he worked full time and took night shifts as well.
The subject started the company XXXXXXXX and the interviewee thought it seemed to go well. The interviewee gave the subject and his partner an office and desks in the basement, but noted that the orders fell and they had to shut down.
After the subject moved to his own place, she is not quite sure what he was doing, but says: He was doing something else. Then he got a great idea, and said he would make “fake” diplomas for customers over the Internet. As she remembers it, he kept at this for two, three years and the business went well.
The interviewee says that she needed much assistance after 1995 and that the subject at times did great care tasks for me. He was incredibly kind and caring, she says. She says that this was the reason why the subject applied for and was granted a delay of military service. As far as she knows the delay was granted several times until he was eventually discharged.
The interviewee was asked if she knew that the subject at that time was politically involved in the Progress Party. I knew where he stood politically, she says, but there was no burning interest at the time and I did not hear that he was enrolled in any political party.
The interviewee said she had a boyfriend, XXXXX, from 1990 to 2005, with whom the subject had a good relationshi. The interviewee says she never heard anything wrong about it while the relationship lasted, but said: In recent years, Anders has become so strangely moralistic, has had a lot of ideas that there should be no sex outside of marriage and stuff. He was never like that before, she adds.
He was so kind, the interviewee says. He always thought of me. Right after he moved to himself, he went to Kristiansand and bought a puppy for me so I should not feel alone. He helped me with everything possible at the time and was unique, she says.
In 2002 the subject moved from the collective in XXXXXXXX to an apartment he rented alone in XXXXXXXX. The interviewee says he was still making diplomas, but there were problems because an American who also did it had caught him, would expose him, and then he had to stop doing it. It was great at first and he rented offices in Pilestredet and downtown. It went on until it collapsed.
The interviewee says she cleaned the subject’s flat against payment in the last years he lived in XXXXXXXX. The experts ask how this came about. Boys at that age are not very good at tidying and cleaning, so I offered myself, she says.
After the business with the fake diplomas was over, the interviewee knew that the subject was doing ‘boards” for a while. But there was great competition, she says and he had to stop doing that too. The interviewee says that the subject during the period he lived alone in the apartment in XXXXXXXX spent more and more time inside and was doing things that did not pay off.
The interviewee says that the subject had relationships with several girlfriends from he was 15 or 16 until he was 21 or 22. Not so long lasting, she says, but I did meet several of them. They were nice girls, she adds. As far as she knows, the subject has not had any girlfriends since 2001. I kept hoping, of course, but when I asked him, he said he was not ready to settle down, she says referring to the subject over the last decade.
The interviewee says that in 2006 it was she who suggested that the subject could move home to her. She is asked why. There was no success with anything, she says, and I thought it was good for him to stay home and save money.
During the first year the subject lived at home again, she experienced the subject as being very busy in front of the PC. He shut down his last firm, she says, it was declared bankrupt. The interviewee says she remembers it because a trustee came home to see them. As far as the interviewee knows, the subject had paid taxes and still had some money left when the firm was liquidated.
At that time he said he would take a few years off, says the interviewee about the subject. The interviewee says she was completely panicked and thought it was horrible. She asked the subject to contact NAV employment office to look for job opportunities. The subject asked her to stop nagging, however, and he never contacted the office.
The interviewee says the subject from 2006 to 2007 spent most of the time in his room. He played games on the computer, she says, and he wanted to lie in bed in the morning, but then I pulled him up.
In 2007, the interviewee says the subject announced that he would write a book. As she understood him, he started 600 years before Christ at the timeto make sure the book would be complete. She says that she still saw him as polite and not changed, except that he isolated himself in his room.
The subject stated that he would write a history book in English. Over a period of several years the interviewee got the impression that the subject really got more and more into it. She saw her son’s involvement in writing as abnormal. She says: He was a normal boy, but in 2006 he changed and most of all he changed in 2010.
The interviewee says the subject became angry when he was disturbed, as when the interviewee knocked on the door. He was so absorbed by the computer, she says. The interviewee says that eventually she felt trapped with her son and that he became more and more intense.
As the interviewee understood the subject, he was writing a book that would be about Norway, Europe and the world view. He sometimes talked about the book, but the interviewee found him uncomfortably intense and eventually avoided all topics that could lead the conversation to politics.
He said later that I was a “little marxist” and “feminist “, the interviewee says. And he said I was for the Labour Party. But I have voted for the Progress Party, influenced by him.
Other things had also changed, she says. From 2010 he became completely weird. He said I could not sneeze and would not come into the living room to me. He was strict, strange and tended to complain about the food.
The interviewee says she does not quite remember when it started, but knows that subject eventually felt that he was not so good looking anymore. He began to talk about plastic surgery and getting new teeth.
In the Autumn of 2010, the subject said to the interviewee that the book he wrote was finished. He left, as far as she knows, to Germany, where he attempted to sell it at a book fair.
From the winter and spring of 2010 things went way too far, the interviewee says. He was lecturing me about politics. I thought it was just nonsense and madness and that this had to end. He was totally out there and believed in all the nonsense he was saying.
The interviewee is seldom able to give examples of how the subject was when he was intense, but says: I felt under pressure. The companionship and contact with him were changed. We used to have so much fun together and now it was just politics and negative things about me.
The interviewee continues: He was not able to keep a suitable distance from me anymore — either he would not come out or else he sat right next to me on my couch, oncing kisseing me on my cheek. It was so intense. I wondered if he could move out soon. I started to get annoyed over his behavior and he was constantly annoyed and angry. There were huge reactions to trifles.
The interviewee says that during the last year the subject lived at home, he was increasingly eager to avoid infection. He would not talk to me, the interviewee says. And he accused me of talking to too many people who could infect us. He would not come into the kitchen and he ate his meals in his room. He handed me the plates through the door. And I remember that he held his hands over his face, for a period he also used a face mask indoors.
The interviewee says she more and more often thought that her son had become very strange and uncomfortable. When asked, however, she says that she never thought that he had become ill. I excused him and thought things would soon be better, she says.
In the autumn of 2010, the interviewee noticed that the subject had purchased what she describes as a bulletproof suitcase. It was incredibly weird, she says, and I asked him what he wanted to do with it. In case somebody breaks into the car, he said. The interviewee says the subject repeatedly stated that he was afraid somebody would break into his car.
In addition, there were many things in his room I was not sure about. He bought a shotgun which he kept in his room and ordered a rifle. And in early 2011 he bought a big black gun. The interviewee says she did not like this and told the subject he could not stay at home with so much weaponry.
The interviewee says the subject repeatedly donned what he called survival gear. Black and green clothes. When she asked, he said that it had to do with getting a hunter’s license, but the interviewee thought this was strange.
The interviewee says the subject often wanted to talk about an impending civil war during the last year, but that the interviewee could not stand this. He spoke loudly and intensely, she says, and it was really uncomfortable. I tried everything I could to avoid those issues.
The interviewee says she noticed right before Christimas in 2010 that there were a lot of mail shipments to the subject. Two black bags heavy as lead arrived, she says, and I was really surprised. He filled the storage room in the basement with strange things, too, she says. In the spring of 2010 I found two backpacks filled with rocks inside the door and four huge bins with lids behind them. The interviewee says the subject became angry and grumpy when she asked what he wanted to do with all the equipment.
In the spring of 2011, the mother remembers the subject one day came out of his room wearing a red uniform jacket with lots of badges. The interviewee says that her son looked very strange and that she thought now I give up, he is doing so many strange things.
The experts asks if the interviewee at any time suspected that her son was ill, or the he had changed in ways she did not understand. Constantly since 2006, she says, but above all from the spring of 2010. He has been living in a fantasy world, with all that he has never managed to achieve. He talked about Christian IV, generals and stuff, and I could not keep up.
I did ask myself whether he was going completely mad, she says, and it became a major discomfort, disgusting, and it felt unsafe. As if I did not know him anymore. So I thought there must be something wrong with his head.
The interviewee says the subject started exercising after January of 2011, but that it seemed completely excessive, totally Rambo. He said he took some protein powder and bought dietary supplements that he kept in black bags in his room. He went to the gym, but otherwise he almost never went out.
In April 2011, he suddenly said he wanted to become a farmer, the interviewee says about the subject. He had signed a contract, and would rent a farm with 23 acres of farmland. The interviewee says she was surprised that he would become a farmer, but was glad that he finally found something to do and moved out of her apartment.
On May 7 he rented a car and brought his stuff to the farm at Rena, the interviewee says. She was looking forward to visit him, but there was never a suitable moment. He said he was tired and that there were a lot of stones se he had to grow timothy-grass, the interviewee says.
The interviewee met the subject in Oslo on June 2, 2011. Again she did not receive confirmation that she could visit the farm. The subject was then in contact with her by phone several times before he came to her home the night before the criminal acts. He lied and deceived me, she says, crying.
The interviewee denies that she ever experienced the subject as depressed or sad. She never thought that he seemed excited.
She has never heard him talking loudly to himself. She commented that the subject in periods had the sound on the PC on very loud, but he turned it down when I asked him to.
When asked, however, she says that the subject, after moving to Rena in the beginning of May 2011, talked a lot about sounds. He was very passionate about it, she said. Talked about squeaks and unpleasant sounds on the farm. He also said he was afraid his liver would fail and I did not understand anything of that.
The interviewee also says that the subject was completely fixated on spiders after he moved to the farm. He said spiders came crawling out of the walls, she says, and that it was a spider hell up there. He talked about beetles, spiders and other critters and seemed agitated when he talked about it.
The interviewee says she in a telephone conversation with the subject, probably in June 2011, was told by him that there had been an undercover agent who wanted to take pictures in his yard. She thought the story sounded strange.
The interviewee says in conclusion that when she looks back, she thinks that the subject must have been insane. Considering how different he became. She cries and says: You do not believe that such things can happen, I still don’t quite believe it.
The experts have tried to get in touch with his closest childhood friend in order to have a detailed conversation with him. He works at XXXXXXXX, but has not responded to phone calls or messages left on his phone. The experts have therefore been unable to obtain information beyond the witness statement.